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  [Posted 11/18/2009 3:45:32 PM]  Marathon

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Does anyone know what are elite times for running a marathon?

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  [Posted 11/18/2009 8:34:21 PM]  Marathon

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It takes a 2:19 to qualify for the Trials. But, that isn't necessarily "elite."

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  [Posted 11/18/2009 10:08:55 PM]  Marathon

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Ok thanks i wasn't planning on qualifying for the trials but i wanted to know where a 2:30 would have placed me.

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  [Posted 11/19/2009 6:22:36 PM]  Marathon

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You actually have to run one first.

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  [Posted 11/19/2009 8:41:16 PM]  Marathon

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yes well i did 20 in 2 hours and 3 min over the summer to get in shape for XC season and i was only hitting like 85-90 mile weeks at that time so i figure in two years after i graduate ill up the miles up and i should be around a 2:40 for my first one.

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  [Posted 11/19/2009 8:43:32 PM]  Marathon

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Do not underestimate miles 20-26.2

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  [Posted 11/19/2009 8:49:08 PM]  Marathon

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Decaf wrote:


Do not underestimate miles 20-26.2

 

Bad things happen after 20 miles. It is, after all, the half way point.

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  [Posted 11/19/2009 9:07:33 PM]  Marathon

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for starters i did actually run 27 before and its not the halfway mark if you can actually do math. Secondly its just another 6 miles and i still have another 2 years of college running left so i think i should be fine lol

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  [Posted 11/19/2009 9:10:12 PM]  Marathon

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JonasRunner11 wrote:


for starters i did actually run 27 before and its not the halfway mark if you can actually do math. Secondly its just another 6 miles and i still have another 2 years of college running left so i think i should be fine lol

 

You are in for a world of hurt boy if you think half way isn't 20 miles.

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  [Posted 11/19/2009 9:21:51 PM]  Marathon

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trust me i think i understand the meaning of pain after all the races ive been through. Actually the funny thing is since we all are runners we kinda enjoy a bit a pain don't we haha.

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  [Posted 11/19/2009 9:55:58 PM]  Marathon

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JonasRunner11 wrote:


trust me i think i understand the meaning of pain after all the races ive been through. Actually the funny thing is since we all are runners we kinda enjoy a bit a pain don't we haha.

 

The difference between joggers and runners is pain.

All I can say is I wish I could be there when you realize what I'm talking about. Bill Rodgers once said, "The marathon can humble you."

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  [Posted 11/20/2009 1:13:03 AM]  Marathon

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You know I have to agree with Brew--I've heard the exact same thing from friends of mine who have run a marathon(s) before. I've begun training for one in April (if I'll be ready to compete is still up to question!) and have logged 20 mile days before no problem as a collegiate runner, so I figure how much harder can it be huh? The war stories I've heard sure made me question that... The marathon is a fo' shizz test of manhood. Good luck in the future btw!

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  [Posted 11/20/2009 7:24:23 AM]  Marathon

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RESPECT THE DISTANCE! I suck as a runner but as BrewPat said "Funny things happen after 20 miles".

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  [Posted 11/20/2009 7:25:39 AM]  Marathon

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JonasRunner11 -

You and only you know exactly where you are at in your training and what you are and are not ready to run. However, I can tell you from experience the marathon is a whole different beast than any other race. I ran my first one on the 13th of this month, having run all shorter distances. I started with the intention of running a 3:15-3:20, only to run a 3:51. And the only times I was hurting was after mile 16.
Like I said, only you know exactly where you are at. I understand that we're two very different people, with different abilities, backgrounds, training regimens, etc. But the fact the marathon can humble you is a very real truth.
I wish you nothing but the best, my friend. If you're ready, don't let anything stop you from going for it.

-Luke

PS- elite times range from 2:03:59 (the world record) to 2:15.

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  [Posted 11/20/2009 9:19:38 AM]  Marathon

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JonasRunner11 wrote:


trust me i think i understand the meaning of pain after all the races ive been through. Actually the funny thing is since we all are runners we kinda enjoy a bit a pain don't we haha.

 

As someone who ran competitively through high school and college and had real pain during hard races, I can tell you that the marathon is in an entirely different plane of being when it comes to pain. Obviously we competitive runners relish the pain to some extent, but don't underestimate the difficultly of those extra 6 miles. No one is joking when they say that 20 miles really is the halfway point in terms of effort. If you train for a marathon you should do just fine, but it's difficult to forecast your race time until you do specified training for the event...and even then, you really don't know until you've run one.

And unfortunately, even a 2:30, while it may place you high in smaller marathons, is still nowhere near being elite for a guy.

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  [Posted 11/20/2009 11:50:54 AM]  Marathon

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Kid, I understand and appreciate your enthusiasm for running. It's awesome that you're motivated, but don't take this advice lightly.

I'm a senior in college and ran my first marathon this past October, running 80-90 miles a week. I ran a 2:49 with the intention only of finishing. I had five long runs of 20 miles or more, with a max of 22. The training felt great and I was negative splitting each long run. But let me tell you this: miles 21-25 are the absolute hardest thing I have ever done. I felt GREAT thru mile 20, only to find mile 21 had a world of pain I'd never felt. Between 25-26.2, you start to cheer up because you're almost done. Respect the distance. You should have one goal for a marathon at your age: To finish.

I'm not trying to scare you out of running a marathon, I'm warning against haste and pride. It's not hard to run 20 miles in 2 hours and change. But you will never fully understand how tough the last 10K is until you actually race it.

Best of luck to you.

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  [Posted 11/20/2009 12:15:21 PM]  Marathon

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Thanks for all the advice guys. I still have 2 years to look forward to it. I was just saying that because my friend she just ran her first marathon and had a blast and ran a 3:04 even though she got lost causing it to add about 2 min onto her time haha. But she says differently but ill def. keep in mind all the advice. Thanks a lot!

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  [Posted 11/20/2009 2:59:02 PM]  Marathon

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I know your friend, and she is from a town where everyone is freakishly good at sports. Don't be fooled when she says the last 10K was easy.

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  [Posted 11/20/2009 6:13:32 PM]  Marathon

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do you honestly know my friend? and I'm pretty sure she just started to get sick at running last year. I mean she was good and all but got really great last year. And where I'm from everyone is freakishly good too so its kinda expected from me haha

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  [Posted 11/21/2009 3:20:24 PM]  Marathon

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I have to agree with everyone else in that the marathon is a completely different type of running than other races. I was primarily a middle-distance guy in college with 1:54 800m and 3:55 1500m prs, but did okay at xc running 25:50s for 8k's. As I got older I went for longer and longer distances. I even ran 5:30 pace for the New Haven 20k one year. I've done just two marathons now and they both kicked my ass. Maybe it's just outside of my natural range, but the worst thing you can do is take the distance lightly.

You might not want to compare youself to your friend. Last year she qualified for the NCAA Division I Regional meet in two events. That puts her in with a small group of eleite runners. Should you be comparing yourself to people in that group?



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  [Posted 11/21/2009 4:04:19 PM]  Marathon

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Well in all honesty i just wanted to know what the times were and i don't know how this got blown out of proportion but ill let you guys know how my 1st marathon goes in 2 years.

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  [Posted 11/21/2009 8:04:54 PM]  Marathon

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JonasRunner11 wrote:


Well in all honesty i just wanted to know what the times were and i don't know how this got blown out of proportion but ill let you guys know how my 1st marathon goes in 2 years.

 

I'm with you bud. From your original question this snowballed pretty quick. Look us all up in 1.5 years when you start training for one!

-phil

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  [Posted 11/21/2009 9:37:26 PM]  Marathon

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BrewPat wrote:


The difference between joggers and runners is pain.

All I can say is I wish I could be there when you realize what I'm talking about. Bill Rodgers once said, "The marathon can humble you."

 

Let us know what your first marathon is so Brew and I can go watch somewhere between mile 23-24. I can't wait to see the look on your face as you "enjoy" the pain of the last 10k.

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  [Posted 11/22/2009 8:06:55 AM]  Marathon

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Let us know what your first marathon is so Brew and I can go watch somewhere between mile 23-24. I can't wait to see the look on your face as you "enjoy" the pain of the last 10k.

 

Seeing as I've done 26 of them . . .

First one was Myrtle Beach and the pain set in around mile 19. They had this huge "wall" at 20 that we ran under. I wasn't too happy to see it at the time. I laugh at it now, because I don't want to cry.

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  [Posted 11/22/2009 10:10:25 AM]  Marathon

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JonasRunner11 wrote:


yes well i did 20 in 2 hours and 3 min over the summer to get in shape for XC season and i was only hitting like 85-90 mile weeks at that time so i figure in two years after i graduate ill up the miles up and i should be around a 2:40 for my first one.

 

As the not so nice woman looked at me and said at mile 20, this will be the longest 10K of your life. Unfortunately she was right.

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  [Posted 11/22/2009 10:49:24 AM]  Marathon

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BrewPat wrote:


Seeing as I've done 26 of them . . .

First one was Myrtle Beach and the pain set in around mile 19. They had this huge "wall" at 20 that we ran under. I wasn't too happy to see it at the time. I laugh at it now, because I don't want to cry.

 

haha, I'm doing Myrtle Beach this February! Will only be my 2nd marathon but I'm really excited already. Can't wait for the "wall"

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  [Posted 11/22/2009 9:04:50 PM]  Marathon

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haha, I'm doing Myrtle Beach this February! Will only be my 2nd marathon but I'm really excited already. Can't wait for the "wall"

 

Hopefully the f***ing thing in gone. No need for that kind of crap to screw with you.

Hope you packed plenty of HGH.

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  [Posted 11/22/2009 9:39:49 PM]  Marathon

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BrewPat wrote:


Hopefully the f***ing thing in gone. No need for that kind of crap to screw with you.

Hope you packed plenty of HGH.

 

Nope, just 301 hot sauce and home brew

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