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  [Posted 11/21/2009 6:37:54 PM]  how to know best racing distance

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Okay everyone, i'm 28 and i've been running for a little over a year now and i would like to know what distance i am best at. I've raced 4 marathons, (2) 10ks, (2) 1 miles, and a hand full of 5ks and half marathons. i've ran 200, 400 and 800 repeats around the track but i know that's not the same as a race. So i'd like to know how different people pick their best racing distance.

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  [Posted 11/22/2009 8:19:41 AM]  how to know best racing distance

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Well, "best" is a bit subjective. I love 5K's. However, compared to what I can do in longer distances, it isn't my "best" racing distance. The only distance I'm not a huge fan of is the mile on a track. That 3rd lap just sucks.

If you are trying to find out what event your are best at to modify your training (i.e. track work and such), then I'd say look at how you finish races. If you find yourself outkicking most people toward then end, then utilize longer track work. If you find you struggle to hold people off or get taken at the line, then maybe you need shorter track sessions.

Others will disagree with me, but I don't think track work should be tailored to the event you are running. It is more about tailoring it to the runner's strength's and weaknesses. I'm not saying you should do the same track work for a 5K as you would for a marathon, I'm just saying that the track work you do should focus more on your weaknesses and not a blanket "5K workout".

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  [Posted 11/22/2009 1:34:25 PM]  how to know best racing distance

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BrewPat wrote:


Well, "best" is a bit subjective. I love 5K's. However, compared to what I can do in longer distances, it isn't my "best" racing distance. The only distance I'm not a huge fan of is the mile on a track. That 3rd lap just sucks.

If you are trying to find out what event your are best at to modify your training (i.e. track work and such), then I'd say look at how you finish races. If you find yourself outkicking most people toward then end, then utilize longer track work. If you find you struggle to hold people off or get taken at the line, then maybe you need shorter track sessions.

Others will disagree with me, but I don't think track work should be tailored to the event you are running. It is more about tailoring it to the runner's strength's and weaknesses. I'm not saying you should do the same track work for a 5K as you would for a marathon, I'm just saying that the track work you do should focus more on your weaknesses and not a blanket "5K workout".

 

Great advice. Couldn't have said it better myself.

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  [Posted 11/22/2009 1:42:31 PM]  how to know best racing distance

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Here is the best advice, ask yourself this questions. What race am I best at? What races do I do well at? Instead of asking everyone else just ask yourself.

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  [Posted 11/23/2009 1:46:48 PM]  how to know best racing distance

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stopcecil! wrote:


Here is the best advice, ask yourself this questions. What race am I best at? What races do I do well at? Instead of asking everyone else just ask yourself.

 

I haven't raced every distance before. I'd like to know where i'm at in the 1 mile, 800, 400, 200, 100 as well. I seem to run well in most races, but i don't have track shoes and i'm not in high school or college where i can join a team and compete. Maybe i have a good kick for a sprinter, or maybe i have better stamina fora 10k rather than 5k, idk. I don't honestly even know how to race a 1 mile or less, i don't know how to taper or prepare for one of those. There's lots of advice out there for marathon training, which is where i began, but the marathon seems so long to me, but i'm sure most people feel that way.

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  [Posted 11/23/2009 2:19:40 PM]  how to know best racing distance

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Just run what you want to run, the mile is a hell of a lot of fun. I just go out there with a goal time in mind, and if I am on a track I am try to hit the splits for that time, then on the last lap I go all out. Part of racing is learning how to be mentally tough and how exactly to race but it always varies. As far as 800s, and down it should be all out since those are sprints and not distance races (even though in high school 800 is considered distance). I have no done a marathon but I would say it might be up your alley but first try some shorter distances and really take time and build a nice little base. How many miles are you putting in each week, and what is your long run?

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  [Posted 11/23/2009 3:08:39 PM]  how to know best racing distance

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Since you are new to running you should experiment with different racing seasons and see what you like best. For example, you could race on the track this winter, 5K's for the spring, XC next fall, etc. From there you can plan your training phases with the help of people here, or through a combination of books like Daniels Running Formula, Lydiard's Running to the Top, etc.

Definitely get yourself racing shoes for each season. They can help you feel faster than you are, and you can always find good racing shoes on sale.

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  [Posted 11/23/2009 6:47:16 PM]  how to know best racing distance

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stopcecil! wrote:


Just run what you want to run, the mile is a hell of a lot of fun. I just go out there with a goal time in mind, and if I am on a track I am try to hit the splits for that time, then on the last lap I go all out. Part of racing is learning how to be mentally tough and how exactly to race but it always varies. As far as 800s, and down it should be all out since those are sprints and not distance races (even though in high school 800 is considered distance). I have no done a marathon but I would say it might be up your alley but first try some shorter distances and really take time and build a nice little base. How many miles are you putting in each week, and what is your long run?

 

I am really excited about running a 1 mile race in an indoor track this winter. I ran a 1 mile road race on memorial day, but i don't think i was prepared mentally for it, and it was pretty spread out. My best 5k was when there were 3 people very close to me, the harder i pushed, the better i felt. It doesn't make sense to me. This is one reason i'm really looking forward to it. Currently, i am putting in between 50-75 mpw. Before my last marathon in september, my long runs were from 18-26 miles. I don't plan on going past 22 for long runs in the future for a normal marathon. The plan is to build a better base over the winter and maybe run a couple short distance races just to see what they're really like and see how good i can do. I don't have racing flats yet though.

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  [Posted 11/23/2009 6:50:10 PM]  how to know best racing distance

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lmy77 wrote:


Since you are new to running you should experiment with different racing seasons and see what you like best. For example, you could race on the track this winter, 5K's for the spring, XC next fall, etc. From there you can plan your training phases with the help of people here, or through a combination of books like Daniels Running Formula, Lydiard's Running to the Top, etc.

Definitely get yourself racing shoes for each season. They can help you feel faster than you are, and you can always find good racing shoes on sale.

 

I've been learning a lot from local runners that i've became friends with. I haven't read any of those books you mentioned yet but i do read running times and runner's world which i get good tips here and there.

If i do good in the 1 mile, i might actually buy a pair of track shoes and run a couple shorter distances just to see where i stand and what it's like. Maybe i'll like sprinting better, i kinda doubt it but at the same time it sounds exciting lol.

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  [Posted 11/23/2009 7:11:32 PM]  how to know best racing distance

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Go here: http://www.runbayou.com/jackd.htm and plug in all of your racing times. The one that gives you the highest number is probably your best, though it's usually skewed with extremely long or extremely short distances.

The site uses Jack Daniels' running formula, mentioned earlier.

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  [Posted 11/23/2009 7:40:38 PM]  how to know best racing distance

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I shouldn't be giving you advice, you have better times than me (except the mile). Your times are pretty solid, I would say just keep doing what you're doing.

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  [Posted 11/24/2009 2:21:19 PM]  how to know best racing distance

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Thanks minus... i've seen something like that before. http://www.runnersworld.com/cda/trainingcalculator/0,7169,s6-238-277-279-0-0-0-0-0,00.html
it's a training predictor calculator which predicts about what you should run different distances based on a current race. i'm not sure how accurate it is though. I don't know if you can really measure how much progress you're making in a variety of distances at several points throughout the year since each one is raced differently and recovery is needed. Like you won't run a 1 mile races close to a marathon and a marathon wouldn't normally be run every month. I'm probably going to end up racing many shorter distances and find out what it's like after i learn how to race them. I'm used to pacing myself for the most part and i've never gone all out.

and stopcecil, i've learned that you can learn good tips from just about anyone, whether they are slower or faster than you.

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